# worldbuilding marathon by bungie (rip)
takeaway for dim garme korps; "it's the amazing story stupid"
that is it should all be about the community space emerging from and around (insert here - marathon) not merely another disposable korporate greed money 'extraction' scheme
one might term this 'the marathon failure non-paradox': simply the self-defeating impossibility of a live service product strictly marketed to toxic white whale sweats
as it is right now however it appears a doa live service hero whale sweat fontslop weekend-only shooter with all-too predictably zero future
the bungie that made halo is looong gone and only empty nostalgia remains - shame; sony ultragreed hypercorporation has failed to totally leverage that fact as the mere appearance of the bungie logo ain't cutting it for hot new cyber punks that only heard about halo yesterday
once again the industry chose short term greed over long term ecological worldbuilding and by the very definition of being an _industry_ cannot have the visionary artistic courage to fully commit to the power of the imagination of researchers committed to 'marathon' as an entire fictional ecosystem of art and play
instead players face an 'icon-hover manager sim' interface acting as a negative filter against much needed (near instant) demo (/scene?) onboarding - and instant 'sounds like a skill issue' bs from the sweaty headclicker non / anti community
in which the wildly speculative internet /bluffy drama videos dropping on loltube genuinely seem no less interesting as the overpriced money grabbing generic product currently on offer
"but if we don't preorder 'art raiders' we won't get that sick $15 pistol weapon reskin" said no one ever
if only they'd taken the radial 'republic of bob' route and simply considered marathon as an open source artistic community _media ecology_ - then such videos good bad or indifferent would *themselves* constitute the very living body of the experience
https://thedailyperspective.org/article/2026-03-17-how-caves-of-quds-creators-shaped-marathons-narrative-universe-e9a4f793
do you hear what i'm saying manny - holy pastel graphic design blocktober overload puke batman it would've been awesome
just _think of it_; an entire freshly painted universe to explore in which beautiful weird community art of all kinds exists and flourishes - videos animated movies tv series and flan merch of all kinds posters clothing yes even hyper generic hero shooters
one vast non euclidean interactive digital art exhibit of cool pulse quickening graphic design and intense deep strange lore called 'marathon' which lives precisely because of community
see people you've gotta get me in on the ground floor; i've got the hot strange skillz to tap into great odd ideas
imagine for a single extraction round - the marathon 'reveal cinematic short' is infinitely more engaging than the concord copypasta bungie are desperately slanging as the main videographic attraction
in fact everything *except* the main playstate consumer product holds more interest - gee if only we could reverse that turn the whole notion inside out; cut out the zombified middleman and simply have the organically mutating constantly expanding muti dimensional paracosm 'marathon' *without* the undead blocky unchewable live service product center
so welcome to the republic boys no flashbulbs please we're here all week (yeah alone)
for example take the very word 'marathon' rather than just another doa concord clone the term conjurers up something impossibly exciting strange and wonderful that's been calling the whole of humanity forward all our lives running running toward and around some great bio-gravitational alien culture attractor at the end of time
now *that* seems more deep strange fun
one of marathon's problems is that when compared to the directness and simplicity of bungie's halo it appears bloated and try-hardish
**+** halo: "epic scifi alien headclicker"
**+** marathon: "trend-chasing squad based pvpve hero extraction mutiplayer sweat shooter with filthy microtransactions set in an distinct fluorescent superclean antiironically hypercorporate dystopian stolen asset roblox qrcode-punk browser lookin' yet entirely non-mysterious generic 'sci-fi world' made by a major studio with one of the strongest fps pedigrees reviving a long dormant ip (destiny 2 lol?)"
to consider instead an intense sprawling dynamic offline fps featuring co-op play with optional expansion into online pvp
update: what a corporate surprise it's been put on indefinite hold and 17% of the workforce have been already shitcanned - sonybungie you greed-blinded arthats what the heck are you doing over there - apart from copypasta-ing other greedy corporate mistakes
> i've gone from 'meh' to believer
> ~ park 'flopperoonski kiss of garme death meme' morgan
all management is mismanagement
**philosophy and marathon**
> instead of spending a billion dollars making this garme they should just form a studio out of the people who made that cinematic short and just have them make like 20 or 30 more of those
> ~ pareidolic eigenvector mr_mechanical
> i'm hyped for the art book more than teh garme lol
> ~ @ismailhamzaoui4832 9 months ago (edited)
> marathon looks like the kind of vr garme they'd put in a black mirror episode
> ~ @nicholasj_scott 10 months ago
**+** this garme is a vibe
**+** much like a giant planet pierced by a falling metallic megastructure marathon appears utterly splintered into a thousand incoherent shards
**+** these shards are incoherent despite being official lore
**+** marathon's lore is certainly coherent and non fragmentary whenever read by flans but still feels self isolated - something in its past totally disconnected to the new garme arriving march 2026
**+** marathons's art style (mas) - while certainly expressing style the stealing of art assets from an artist go towards proving just how 'unsettled' the whole / hole fragmentary 'marathon garme universe' seems - precisely like it doesn't have any ideas of it's own does not need to exist and in fact only exists because of greed
**+** another way to read the mas: all those little dots signs flashing blobs streaks and glitches - rather than mere expressions of a distinct art style they seem symbols of a troubled mind - one with access to a billion graphic design stickers who then slaps whatever's nearest to hand on the nearest virtual wall and then calls it a texture
**+** marathon's use of saturated colors bold lighting (now no longer 'flat) often abstract minimalist geometry - what director joseph cross terms 'graphic realism' - appears suspect in the same way abusive bad writer david foster wallace used to regularly glaze over the term 'new sincerity' - in other words it's empty corporate bs without much substance
**+** indeed there is a curious emptiness about marathon - ghost shell robots stuffed with the consciousness of idiots pew-pewing everything in sight merely to 'extract' - what exactly precious alien artifacts - or is that really just consistent revenue from the pockets of garmers rightly cynical about inherently evil near-future hypercorporations and ir strictly profit-uber-alles motivations
example useless tai ceti iv loot - the one that rook tries to grab off that dying player in the bungie cinematic
![[useless-loot-parody-marathon-bungie-garme-case.png|425]]
> sadness: imagine in the far future cybernetic runners forced by evil corps to uselessly rummage for long-abandoned bits of rando digital trash - at some point they come across a dusty $40 dollar copy of an impossibly old doa extraction sweat shooter ('#marathon' '#bungie' '#garmesindustry')
> ~ robert what on social media
to consider aimlessly wandering to open boxes for arbitrary loot which fills up hugely limited inventory space without providing meaning as 'playbor'; the industry should be paying _players_ to interact with it's rubbish corporate copypasta
**+** the notion that 'vidyagarmz are art' obscures more than it explains - the global vidyagarm industry only chews up artists and treats them as disposable wage slaves; they're infinitely more artistic yet there's only real profit in braindead pew-pew products which print money through microtransactions battle passes and other garmes-as-a-service vomit (hence the term 'extraction shooter') - forever in debt to an actively dishonest near future hypercorporation
**+** the hilarious idea described by the mighty delayed input talking about marathon as being 'on tone' - always be on-tone aka 'abot'
**+** the fact that marathon cinematic short director alberto mielgo called the theft of art assets from artist antireal "blown out of proportion" yet has to go on record stating ir short wasn't a product of ai is the worst kind of foul irony
**+** the entire reveal felt depressing and weird with a funless overall mood of dark depression like a writer from the pacific northwest took too many smart drugs and ended up creating something not nearly clever enough
**+** the notion of a 'cryo archive': a horribly cold lifeless and pointlessly dangerous non-place where indentured cybernetic wage slaves caught in a self perpetuating shareholder thresher - mere worm-woven shells of themselves - were forced to signed bs contracts to loot-grind for a non specific number of years ruthlessly tbagging other players on site without pay in exchange for passage to a new country of better garmes always just over the (next) horizon (it's no surprise that a garme of ruthless self interest was made by ruthlessly self-interested near-future dystopian hypercorporations)
**update patch**
alas while 'a lot of fun'(tm) teh garme is at it's dead heart still just conceptually boring and mid
ruthlessly optimized consumer goods in this case a moldy liquid nothing burger of hammy neon fontslop vomit; bungie rip
**+** just realized something yet again - why do so many uninformed assholes have any opinion whatsoever about something as arbitrary and cosmically uninportant as a vidyagarm; ir only link with it is as content for ir particular channel
**+** marathon as a metaphor: in which net 'discourse' *pfff* aka 'white noise' appears to be much more about where culture is heading generally - 'woke' as in intellectually and spiritually enlightened or 'broke' as in 'evolutionally obsolete ideas such as greed exploitation work and dumb loot extractor playbor sims'
**so called 'marathon discourse'**
firstly there is non
not if what one means by discourse "actually informed" since modern video recommendation algorithms are designed to maximize user engagement over any other metric
besides which if the context and answer for ten is 'vidyagarmes' then when it comes to ever decreasing player counts we're hardly talking about "certain harsh realities need to be faced" pfft insert obama 'batch please' face here it's vidyagarmz ffs not some fundamental cosmic reality bedrock merely the modern global hyperreal ludocapitalist neurospectacle
in which some rando four foot twodlord in a flocking mario eye hat and a shit-eating voice that sounds like they're the kind of easily hatable kid weasel who stands behind bullies and says 'yeah' - repeatedly and obsessively rubs out with sandpaper glazing over 'steam charts' in some kind of sick 'dead garme lol' doomposting based schadenfreude due to underwhelming concurrent player numbers
not that these liquid hamburger brains give two plastic character skins about entire garme studios going dark overnight when korporate scuttles the whole thing - although they do
as if necessarily contextless anti-scientific staring at 'hurr durr numbers go down' - all while allegedly being 'all about that reality (of numbers)' aka the altright hyper-rational facts-don't-care-about-your-fweelings crowd - isn't really just the ideological excuse to act like the utter donkey breying troll munt one loves being
kind of a (ironically unpaid) korporate number cruncher and industry bootlicker who always never actually gives a digital turd whether 'numbers go up' or not just as long as someone gets that bonus andor golden parachute "heck we can always ditch the entire studio back into the electronic void and buy another one amirite" - such worms redefine "you're not wrong walter you're just an asshole"
besides the word 'discourse' brings to mind intellectual gentlemen in vienna discussing philosophy over excellent cake and coffee while reading newspapers on sticks and pondering the universe - that's hardly what one faces online which is closer to a bunch of stoned apes screaming while repeatedly hitting ir keyboards with devolved fists and making roflcopter noises with ir flapping asshole gobs
(modern video recommendation algorithms polarize such violetly uninformed opinions and amplify views favoring angry sensationalist or emotionally outraged 'discontent' that generates 'engagement' and this unnaturally leads creators towards spewing forth more extreme perspectives as only controversial content maintains visibility)
where accuracy goes out the window to be entirely supplanted by emotionally charged crowd pleasing 'hot takes' and appeals to reactionary / permanently emotional angryflans / hateduck riders with a desperate need to appear relevant - industry visionaries and all seeing predictive gurus bizarrely bringing up rando charts for the fifth necropost in a row like it was a cult fetish
flans which often display prominent veins in ir forehead
rather marathon discourse could mean any story universe with once legendary or mythic lore generating much current synthetic (online) drama
that is the drama seems somehow a direct consequence of the mythic lore - obscure mystery causing wild mass speculation
having said that the truly sweaty players with veiny swollen foreheads are sony-bungie as no amount of grind can remotely compete with mass marketing of (upwards of) $250M; in this sense they deserve each other
also watching glock smoking professional headclickers unceasingly wearing ir 'mad leet skillz' like a shroud ruin the less sweaty is freakishly tedious to the point where one wonders why one is no longer wondering why garmes like marathon die off at a rate of knots if this particular brand of smug tosspot are the target audience - consistently winning at something this cosmically irrelevant may well in fact be a net loss for humanity as a united whole
// republic of bob